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Kerry calls Erdogan's Zionism remark 'objectionable'

Postby Reg » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:56 pm

From DW:

    US Secretary of State John Kerry's trip to Turkey has been overshadowed by a controversial comment from the Turkish premier equating Zionism to a "crime against humanity." Kerry said he found the remarks "objectionable."

    Kerry said Friday the United States objected to the comment made on Wednesday by Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan. "We not only disagree with it, we found it objectionable," he told a news conference with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu (pictured above) on Friday in Ankara.

    "I raised the speech with the foreign minister and I will raise it with the prime minister," Kerry said.

    The Secretary of State is on his first trip to the Muslim country since taking office, and is meeting with Turkish leaders to discuss the ongoing civil war in neighboring Syria and bilateral interests ranging from energy security to counterterrorism.

    Their discussions come a day after the US announced it would provide direct aid to Syrian rebels for the first time. Washington plans to send food and medical supplies as well as $60 million (45.75 million euros) in extra assistance to the political opposition.

    Overshadowed by controversy

    Kerry's arrival in Ankara was overshadowed by the remarks made by Erdogan in Vienna on Wednesday. During a speech at a UN Alliance of Civilizations conference, the Turkish prime minister complained of prejudices against Muslims.

    "As is the case for Zionism, anti-Semitism and fascism, it is inevitable that Islamophobia be considered a crime against humanity," Erdogan said.

    UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon also responded to Erdogan's remark, saying he believed "it is unfortunate that such hurtful and divisive comments were uttered at a meeting being held under the theme of responsible leadership."

    Some of the sharpest criticism came from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who called Erdogan's comment a "dark and mendacious statement, the likes of which we thought had passed from the world."

    Kerry urges tolerance

    At his news conference with Davutoglu Friday, Kerry stressed "the urgent need to promote a spirit of tolerance, and that includes all of the public statements made by all leaders."

    Kerry added that despite the comment he was hopeful Israel and Turkey could restore their once close relationship, which has deteriorated sharply since Israeli soldiers raided a Turkish aid ship bound for Gaza in 2010, killing nine pro-Palestinian activists.

    Kerry is in NATO ally Turkey on the fourth leg of a nine-country tour of Europe and the Middle East. He has spent the bulk of his trip – which has thus far taken him to Britain, Germany and Italy – focusing on the conflict in Syria.

    After Turkey, Kerry will travel to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar before returning to the US in the middle of next week.
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Re: Kerry calls Erdogan's Zionism remark 'objectionable'

Postby Lasher » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:09 am

Kerry himself is a Zionist Jew.

It was discovered in 2003 by Felix Gundacker, a genealogist[4] working with The Boston Globe, that Kerry's paternal grandparents, who had been born Jewish, as "Fritz Kohn" and "Ida Löwe", in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, changed their names to "Frederick and Ida Kerry" in 1900 and converted from Judaism to Roman Catholicism in 1901[5][6] or 1902.[7] Fritz' elder brother Otto had earlier, in 1887[6] or 1896,[4] also embraced Catholicism. The "Kerry" name, widely misinterpreted as indicative of Irish heritage, was reputedly selected arbitrarily: "According to family legend, Fritz and another family member opened an atlas at random and dropped a pencil on a map. It fell on County Kerry in Ireland, and thus a name was chosen."[5][7] Leaving their hometown Mödling, a suburb of Vienna where they had lived since 1896, Fred and Ida, together with their son Eric, emigrated to the United States in 1905, living at first in Chicago and eventually moving to Brookline, Massachusetts, by 1915.[5]
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Re: Kerry calls Erdogan's Zionism remark 'objectionable'

Postby somi » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:58 pm

Israel is a terrorist state that needs to be destroyed for the good of the world.
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Re: Kerry calls Erdogan's Zionism remark 'objectionable'

Postby mike10helson » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:19 pm

I do agree that Israel is a terrorist state, that needs to be destroyed for the good of the world.
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Re: Kerry calls Erdogan's Zionism remark 'objectionable'

Postby Gunda » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:38 pm

So is Palestine.
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Kerry calls Erdogans Zionism remark objectionable

Postby JamesKeK » Sat May 27, 2017 5:09 pm

Kerry should win some big points if he brings this issue up in debate tomorrow or next week.
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Re: Kerry calls Erdogans Zionism remark objectionable

Postby Deplorable » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:22 am

GrahamZof wrote:I started this thread here cause well, Zionism is Jewish nationalism.
Anyway, heres the question...

Do all Zionists believe that Israel is the Zionist state and support it, or are there people who believe that a Jewish homeland should be created somehwere else?


Zionist is a modern day buzz-word established by satan to confuse people. Just like salafist, radical, neonazi, anti-shemite, Israel ...
As with all those words obscure powers changed its original meaning entirely.

Example: Anti-shemite
Original meaning: against shem (remember: shem, cham and japhet are the 3 races god created on this earth (yellow, black, white))
New artificial meaning: critics of khazars/ jews

Example: neonazi
Original meaning: secular socialist system that provides social services exclusively for people related by blood
New artificial meaning: everybody who is aware of nations, tribes and races

So, also the term "zionist" is nowaday captured by people who believe that palestine and the whole region is end-times-Jerusalem and support a questionable secular state established by secular powers installed on top of it.
However, we all know from the bible that end-times Jerusalem (THE REAL ZION) is a huge city/land that will come down from the skies for the holy ones who endured by living and hiding out in the woods everywhere on earth, having maintained the faith during the time of great tribulation.
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Am I a zionist?

Postby Deplorable » Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:31 am

Sure I am! In the original sense.
I believe that a ZION "new Jerusalem" will come down from the sky like a space ship some day soon for to be populated by a holy people of all tribes scattered in the world that will bring final judgement to the world alongside superior judge Jeshuah according to concience, love and torah law.
I am such a Zionist!
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